October 5, 2009

Completely new giveaway rating system (beta release)

Hello everyone,
We are glad to announce our new rating system which will greatly improve both user and software developer experience with GOTD.
Starting tomorrow, there won’t be a single rating for each software. Instead, each program will be represented by several separate ratings:

Useful (0 to 5 stars)
Easy to install 0/5
Stable 0/5
User friendly 0/5
Feature rich 0/5
Reasonable price 0/5
Helpful documentation 0/5

That’s not all. Now, you will be able to comment on each of these ratings, or add a general recommendation.
We hope that the system will help both our visitors and software developers with more detailed feedback.
Please try this new rating system and let us know if you like it:), we need your opinion!

Yours,
GOTD team

71 Comments »

  1. Thanks so much – long overdue and thanks for all the great software!

    Comment by Louise — October 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
  2. Good job!
    like Giveaway!
    wish that u could make it better

  3. Sounds great. I like the concept already.
    The ability to comment on each of the ratings will add greatly because one can have insight in what people are voting for or against.
    Also one can express more exactly because of the differentiation between some of the properties like useful or price.
    I’m looking forward to it.

    Comment by ALF — October 5th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
  4. Go GOTD!!!! You guys are amazing!
    And I thought that you quit listening a while back :P

    No, I haven’t tried it, but I don’t need to be able to try it to know it is going to be amazing.

    Comment by thenameipicked — October 5th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
  5. There should be some sort needs work that covers a negative rating, but doesn’t humiliate the programmer in question. No program is perfect.

    Other than that good Idea. I like it.

  6. I think this is a great idea. Each of the categories is important to users and developers, and has minimal overlap with the others. Hopefully, this will stop the current frequent appearance of “thumbs down” ratings based on criteria such as “doesn’t work on Windows 98″ or “there’s a better freeware alternative.”

    Comment by Jeff Taylor — October 5th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
  7. Hi GOTD team,

    It’s always good to explore alternative approaches, so this sounds like it could be promising – although it’s not clear how this will affect the voting for other users’ comments..just curious.

    Best,
    Happy

    Comment by Happy Person — October 5th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
  8. the only thing I have to say is, THUMBS UP FOR SUCH A BRILLIANT WORK! ^_^

    Comment by James — October 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
  9. I agree, definitely an improvement. But I also agree with Ashraf. Perhaps too many things to rate in a shot? After all, the software is only up for one day, and I would think many download it and don’t have the time to test all the features on it immediately. They usually rate it on their initial opinion of whether it will be helpful to them or not, or if they try it briefly and know they prefer something else. So it would be hard to evaluate each item right at the beginning, and I’m wondering if that would be necessary. But definitely more helpful than thumbs-up or -down!

    Comment by midori — October 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
  10. Seems to have lots of potential. Intriguing to see how this will work. Thanks for all the effort!

    Comment by watcher13 — October 5th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
  11. awesome

    Comment by gued user — October 6th, 2009 at 12:40 am
  12. Thanks for implementing a new rating system.
    The last one was very broad and the scores were too ambigious. You had to look through the comments to get a feel of how stable or useful the program was.
    Still there has to be a category in which we can rate if the product does what it says it can do, like if a program says it will minimize the time to edit photos, we want to rate if it’s truthful in the promise.
    A scale from 0 to 5 is kinda small, in my opinion.

    Comment by Playhacker — October 6th, 2009 at 1:14 am
  13. This sounds perfect. Hopefully this wil lead to the situation that future comments will be more related to the product itself and less to off topic stuff.

    Comment by PaulZ — October 6th, 2009 at 6:34 am
  14. It’s tomorrow now, where is it?

    Comment by buzz — October 6th, 2009 at 10:24 am
  15. Hey, after using it, I found a couple things that could be improved.
    First of all, it is a very long distance from the giveaway to the comments, so is it possible to make the star ratings closer together, and put the “More titles” to the right of the comments and stars, because the often create this big whitespace.
    I would also like to be able to change how many stars I put (I accidentally put the wrong number of stars.), and when I vote, could we have the stars grey out, like when I vote up/down?
    Anyway, its really great!

    Comment by thenameipicked — October 6th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
  16. You need one more category. “Don’t need / want”. No stars, just a very simple category.

  17. I can understand that the new rating system may be helpful to developers, but as a user, I like to see the overall rating (#up & #down) to get a sense of how well the software is being reviewed. Maybe you could add some sort of summary score…?

    Comment by Lynne — October 6th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
  18. Sorry, the new ratings system is too time consuming for most to complete fully. (SEVEN questions & answers??).

    Most wil simply skip this part in future and look to the comments and the PLUS numbers following to decide.

    Thumbs up was lacking but the new version is quantity but certainly not quality in deciding to download.

    A simpler way would be a + or – next to each question with no comments (Boy, are you leaving yourselves open to abuse, here).

    Thanks to all at GAOTD for trying to make life easier for us all but i think that this is the proverbial ‘sledgehammer to a nut’.

    Now write in your book, 100 times ‘MUST TRY HARDER’.

    Comment by Terry Ive — October 6th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
  19. Well, one thing that I would suggest would be to have an “overall” rating, which would be an average of the ratings.

    Comment by Steven — October 6th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
  20. A good approach … and … I read this daily and use many giveaways. Please get the page layout cleaned up and tighter, don’t waste the screen real estate with all the white space. All on one line across is equally functional. Love your site!

    Comment by getagiveawaydaily — October 6th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
  21. Hurray, a new try from GAOTD admins. Hats off, but i wish to add a few more enhancements to the current version.
    Like Terry mentioned, we can removethe comment for each category.
    And the most important thing which i feel is, the website mentions “People who tried this giveaway find it:” followed by rating for category. Actually the user just need to register and login to provide the rating, but NOT ACTUALLY TRY THE SOFTWARE.
    So i suggest this option could be given to users who actually download and try the GAOTD software. While the user runs the ACTIVATION.EXE/SETUP.EXE, once the installation and activation is done, the html page will open mwntioning the GAOTD is installed. In that page the feedback with user login option can be provided, so the real person who has installed the GAOTD will provide the feedback.

    Comment by Pradeepraj — October 7th, 2009 at 9:12 am
  22. I love your site. Thank you for the upgrade. I download and test a lot of software from your site. I highly recommend it for everyone.

  23. I have no idea how much time the rating system questions take to complete, or where you’d complete it. Then again, I haven’t dloaded anything in a few days.

    However, I know by glancing at it that I can’t tell easily how many people have commented, what the general ‘feel’ of it is, and, like #20 says, there’s FAR too much space taken up. I actually thought at first it was a page malfunction, and just avoided it, it looked so washed out and spread out, and datafree…I thought it was an entry form, not a report.

    Comment by Jadawin — October 7th, 2009 at 11:49 am
  24. Hi, I absolutely love your site and I’m very thankful for all your effort! Good job with the new rating system! I hope it will work. I read some good suggestions here for improvement (#5 Txnnok, #15 thenameipicked).
    I learned and gained so much from your site, thank you, GOTD totally rocks!!

    Comment by Mikela — October 7th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
  25. Missing information – How many people voted (1,2,200)?
    Put all the information condensed please
    (possible format:
    1 Useful :*****
    2 Easy…. :*****
    )
    7 lines and all the votings at the same column so it looks like a table.
    Thanks for working hard to make everybody pleased.

    Comment by inbale — October 7th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
  26. @ 18 Terry Ive I am with you on your review of this new system.

    And for me it makes the task of “review” Should I download this or not way too time consuming to have to read each review or each of the 7 questions.

    Please bring back a summary score and/or a thumbs up or down and/or percentages again.

    Comment by CM — October 8th, 2009 at 7:27 am
  27. Seems like a nice way to track users and keep a more accurate retrieval of information.

    More like the old days when you were prompted to leave a review.

    Sounds good to me!!

    Comment by Ter — October 8th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
  28. Have to say, I’m impressed. I think most will just post general comments, rather than category comments. Also, not real sure of the value of the leave your recommendation for the developer section. Most will just put that in a general comment, too. Still, people have comment flexibility if they want it and, much more importantly, the new voting system will definitely solve the “It’s not what I want, waaaaaa!” problem. Do need a vote counter on each category, though. It might hurt a developer to have some low stars on just one or two votes.

    Still, well done, GOTD!

    Comment by watcher13 — October 8th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
  29. Completely agree with inbale: please condense…too onconvenient to read now. I also would love to see a single overal rating average.

    Comment by saline — October 9th, 2009 at 8:49 am
  30. THANK YOU GOTD! I hope the new system will filter out some of the noise we see in the comments section, such as “I don’t need it,” “doesn’t work” and other content-free commentary. An extra click or two is too much trouble? GOOD, don’t bother. People who have a real interest, will.

    Comment by David — October 9th, 2009 at 10:06 am
  31. I miss the quick tally of the thumbs up / down – it’s great for telling at a glance what people think of a package. Useful or not? So far the new ratings have very few users.

    Comment by Randell — October 10th, 2009 at 9:31 am
  32. I agree that knowing how many people voted is an important aspect. If one person gave it 1 star, that’s not as descriptive as knowing 200 people gave it an average of 1 star.
    If you could show total ratings given, that would be a huge improvement.

  33. I agree with others. As a user I like (and miss) the thumbs up or down feature.

    I don’t have time to read a lot of detailed ratings. If a product has a majority of thumbs up ratings, I usually check it out. And conversely, if there is a majority of thumbs down, I can save time and just move on.

    Now with the new system I find I don’t bother to try very many of the offerings because I don’t know if they are worth it without spending time I do not have.

  34. I hate the new rating scheme. It’s ugly and less informative than before, plus it wastes space. Thumb down on this one!

    Comment by Kevin — October 11th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
  35. Don’t like the new 7 areas ratings, and skip past them to the comments:
    * Way too far apart, take up too much space. Would look better in a table/grid format.
    * Clicking the category head link takes you nowhere but the same page.

    Love this site, and appreciate the software.
    The comments are valuable, I usually read them all even if I’m not downloading that day.
    Thank-you.

    Comment by MichaelC — October 11th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
  36. I agree with others. Bring back the thumbs up and down. WAY to hard to read now.

    Comment by Carey — October 12th, 2009 at 8:09 am
  37. I agree with the comments about space. The first thing I thought when looking at the new layout was the amount of scrolling I had to do to see the comments. It would be much nicer arranged in a table format so you can see at a glance how the ratings are. I would agree that you should include an overall rating. Maybe you could use the thumbs up/down averaging the stars.
    Love the site. Thanks for giving us the chance to try new software!

    Comment by Jen — October 12th, 2009 at 10:50 am
  38. Rating system is abused too much. It does not help the developer or the end user. There are some common sense columns like stability, which 99% of programs should get 4 or 5 stars.

    I honestly rely on myself installing the program, and Ashraff’s reviews. I try hard to ignore the ratings and all other comments.

    Comment by WillB — October 12th, 2009 at 11:48 am
  39. Hey, thanks folks for adding the vote totals to the ratings. You really seemed to be serious about listening to feedback and conscientious about making improvements. Bravo!

    Not sure I agree with the folks wanting to go back to thumbs up/down. Some of the new folks may not realize that was done because high quality software was getting downgraded just because it was for limited use. GOTD can’t and SHOULDN’T turn down these developers just because John and Jane Doe don’t get exactly the software they like every day.

    Take today, 7 categories, all 1 or 2 stars. How is that unclear? And somebody will read through multiple pages of comments because they think 7 categories take up too much space?

    Comment by watcher13 — October 12th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
  40. I love the new system. Much smaller, easier, and the comments are right below. One more suggestion. To make it feel like before, could you put it above the giveaway offering and the only thing you see is a “Average Rating” out of 5 stars, then you have an option to expand the results into their separate categories, and read those reviews. Voting will not be allowed on the “Average Rating”. I am, however, amazing at the distance you guys have come in such a short time with the voting system, while keeping up with the giveaways. Great Job!

    Comment by thenameipicked — October 12th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
  41. Much better voting GUI, now. Thanks.
    One thing: I hate signing up for accounts. I would not use Giveawayoftheday.com if I had to sign up for an account. Just the same, I’m not going to vote if I have to sign up for an account.

    I can understand that you want to keep the voting in control, but I’m not going to register just so I can vote.

    Why not just use Twitter oAuth and/or Facebook Connect? Allow people to sign in and vote with their Twitter or Facebook account. Even better is that after they vote, you’ll then be able to ask “May we post this status update to your Twitter account? ‘I just gave Startup Defender an average rating of 3.5/5 at @Giveawayotday

  42. Very good system,I like it.

  43. I actually prefer the overall thumbs up/down rating. Or perhaps that could be added to this system?

    Comment by Alan — October 14th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
  44. Maybe you could make the new rating system international. For now it’s only on the English page.
    And to use less space, you could put a button ‘Vote’ where the thumbs up and down used to be. Then when one clicks the vote button you present a popup window where the rating system is displayed. That way it takes less space from the page and thus the comments can be back right under the description area.

    Comment by Merlin — October 15th, 2009 at 3:10 am
  45. Also you could make it easier to use. Make it so that when moving over the stars they ‘light up’ When clicking a star that will be the rating. Put the comment inputbox to the right of the stars. You’ll end up with a much easier and less space consuming system.

    Comment by Merlin — October 15th, 2009 at 3:13 am
  46. Hey, I just noticed….earlier today there were 2 or 3 reviews on each section…and now there is just 1 overall…did you forget to put them through the ‘bot/person review’ system?

    Comment by thenameipicked — October 16th, 2009 at 12:06 am
  47. Hey, I really liked the “thumbs up/thumbs down” percentages and MISS them. I sincerely appreciate the intelligent and insightful comments and base my downloads on them. I’ve learned so much…even about alternative software.

    I find this new rating system a bit cumbersome

    Comment by marilyn — October 18th, 2009 at 1:17 am
  48. I don’t know about everyone else, but the main thing for me is seeing the over all vote of thumbs up or down at the top. That is the first thing I always look at and 98% of the time the deciding factor if I even decide to check out the product and comments or click off for the day. Please put that feature back in or something that shows on top a tally of the votes so far for yes or no. It’s also nice to see for days past when I didn’t make it online or searching for product reviews.

    Comment by tracy — October 18th, 2009 at 2:18 am
  49. First of all, well done for attempting to improve the system.
    Despite the comments, the thumbs system was pretty vague and, well, rather meaningless really.
    But I agree with the comments re space, for a moment I thought that this is all there was!
    Now, to be honest I simply scroll past it, I never paid much head to the thumbs, and this is just too time consuming.
    I know it says a lot about our selfish personalities, but maybe most of us want to take a quick look at reviews then decide to download or not and then comment.
    It has been a while since I found anything that appealed to me, I am not into rippers etc so I don’t know how much the system has changed, but maybe instead of having the rating system as a separate “Log into rate” as it is now, could it be included as a final screen after download, registration and activation has been completed?
    That way the info is fresh in our minds, it takes few seconds to “rate” and it eliminates the problem of people just rating without trying, which was obvious in the thumbs too.
    So, at the end of the day, the rating system is easier, quicker, part of the final download process and more targeted to those who use the stuff, probably more meaningful data?

    I have an awful lot of free GOTD soft, for which I thank you and for me personally, I decide if I want it BEFORE looking at and despite comments generally.
    I use the comments for hints as to possible hitches, password, registration, reboots, issues like that.
    Whether someone else loved it, hated it or though abxg was better doesn’t really affect my decision to download or not.
    I usually comment if I had a problem or think it is brilliant.
    I understand developers want feedback, but maybe it is human nature, if it all goes well we log off the site and use it.
    Selfish as I said.
    Just as a thought

  50. I also preferred the thumbs up down system. Could that be added again to the new system??

    Thanx

    Comment by Lourens — October 18th, 2009 at 10:58 am
  51. The last rating method was bad because people didn’t really talk about the product but this is just as bad because all people do is rate it with stars and we still don’t know much on how the product works

    Comment by furballs — October 18th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
  52. I did not prefer the thumbs down method: HOWEVER, I do think that if I can leave a comment, I should not have to register to be able to rate a program. I do feel that anyone leaving a rating should have to leave a comment.

    Comment by Evie — October 19th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
  53. Like I repeated before, here is a solution to both sides. The 5 stars will still be in use. However, the “Overall” set of 5 stars will be where the thumbs-up/thumbs-down used to be (you can’t vote there anymore, however).
    It will take some time for people to get used to the 5 stars, but I think you will find them useful after time.

    Comment by thenameipicked — October 19th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
  54. An excellent refinement – for an already great site!

    Comment by Paul Wo — October 20th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
  55. Can you please add an overall ranking, the thumbs up thumbs down was very handy and i miss that .

  56. Hey, do you guys realize that your 3 year birthday just passed this Saturday?
    http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/2006/10/24/

    At least it seems to be the first post available anyway…

    Comment by Luiz — October 26th, 2009 at 9:21 am
  57. Preferred the other rating system much more.

    Comment by PAG — October 27th, 2009 at 4:36 am
  58. THE FIX THAT KILL THE GOLDEN GOOSE !!!!!!

    ALL YOU HAD TO DO TO FIX THE OLD SYSTEM WAS TO REQUIRE THAT ALL RATERS ALSO PROVIDE A COMMENT.

    I used to look forward to coming to the GAOTD site 2-3 times each day.
    I looked forward to the ratings. [told my money'd friends]
    Since the new rating system, I have not downloaded any software for evaluation or comment.
    PLEASE, BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM WITH A COMMENT REQUIREMENT!

    Comment by Chris Derr — October 29th, 2009 at 3:46 am
  59. Thanks so much for all the great games!!!

    Comment by Betsy — November 1st, 2009 at 6:46 am
  60. P.S. now that I have used the clone program and ajusted some of my movies(by the way i own all my movies)they will not play with the medea program that comes with my computer.
    Thank You for any help you can give
    Ward

  61. I agree with others. Please bring back the thumbs up and down. WAY too hard to read now.

    Comment by Ash — November 7th, 2009 at 2:50 am
  62. I really don’t care for the new rating system. The older one allowed you at a glance to see the cumulative results. The new one, in no way, is as efficient or definitive. Please go back to the “thumbs up/down” rating.

    Comment by bentl1 — November 13th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
  63. The new rating is terrible. Time has now shown that most viewers don’t even rate the software via the new system. PLEASE go back to the Thumbs Up/Thumbs down system.

    Comment by Rory Keogh — December 1st, 2009 at 1:52 pm
  64. Old rating system was much better

    Comment by MetSci — December 1st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
  65. I’m not sure if anybody still checks back to the comments here, but I will leave my opinion anyway.

    After having used the new system for a while I came to the conclusion that I like the new system but there is one very important rating missing. As things are now we are rating many things except for the main one which is whether the software actually works well or not.

    I would suggest adding a rating for “DOES WHAT IT SAYS ON THE BOX”.

    Comment by Just Me — December 2nd, 2009 at 3:47 am
  66. Great stuff GOTD – if people like your site or not, you guys have set the standard.

    I’d like to see the Software Provider indicate what Operating System the software supports. It’s rather hit and miss for some packages where were left looking at other’s experiences

    Comment by KO_Gilligan — December 7th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
  67. It would be nice if we could go back to the ratings and change or add new comments.
    Because after using the program I find new good and bad things about it.
    But It will not let me back in to edit something or add a view.

    Comment by james0622 — December 10th, 2009 at 6:10 am
  68. I kinda like the idea. However, Ashraf may be the only one that can see if there are repeated users adding to the critique every day. I hazard a guess that the majority of users offering a responce are in general terms ‘frequent flyers’ as there is little time for the majority to be able to, or even want to, offer a full and meaningfull critique.

    Comment by Photo Gray — December 11th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
  69. I like the new reviewing system but would also like to keep the old overall thumbs up/down by percentage too. It makes a good at-a-glance reference.

    In any event, I appreciate GAOTD and happily tell my friends about it.

    Comment by Catherine — December 13th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
  70. When we add our rating using the latest rating system the image for the new rating is not re-loaded, there is no visual feedback that the reating had been incorporated into the stats… We have to manually refresh the entire page to see the new star rating graphics.

    Comment by TK — December 19th, 2009 at 6:35 am
  71. Merci beaucoup vraiment génial ce site je vais venir tous les jours !

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